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Samiam
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 3:20 pm    Post subject: Tournament Points Reply with quote

Ok, the system has been refined a bit. Here are the 1 on 1 points that can be earned:-
Pro Tourneys; 1st: 30 points. 2nd: 25 points. 3rd: 21 points. 4th: 18 points.
Open Tourneys; 1st: 15 points. 2nd: 11 points. 3rd: 8 points. 4th: 6 points.
Int Tourneys; 1st: 5 points.

3rd and 4th place will be determined by a play off between the two semi finalists in the future. Jan is the beginning of the tournament year so here are the backdated points.

key: P1 = Pro win, P2 = Pro 2nd, P3 = Pro 3rd, P4 = Pro 4th. O1 = Open win, O2 = Open 2nd, O3 = Open 3rd, O4 = Open 4th. In1 = Int 1st.

1: Vampire Knight[NK] - 52 points - 1 x P4, 1 x O1, 1 x O2, 1 x O3
2: Ultrakill[NK] - 45 points - 3 x O1
3: Isus in Black - 36 points - 1 x P2, 1 x O2
4: [dp]Mephisto - 31 points - 1 x O1, 1 x O2, 1 x In1
5: Sedlo - 30 points - 1 x P1
6: Psy_Mushroom - 21 points - 1 x P3
7: Tennie[NK] - 11 points - 1 x O2
7: MAZter_[LeD] - 11 points - 1 x O2
7: mr_twister - 11 points - 1 x O3
8: Xsnake - 11 points - 1 x O3
8: Bazooka - 11 points - 1 x O3
8: Deathstar - 11 points - 1 x O3
9: [dp]Malvado - 6 points - 1 x O4
9: GaryZZ - 6 points - 1 x O4
9: LG_Heretic - 6 points - 1 x O4
9: Subking - 6 points - 1 x O4
9: Hotman - 6 points - 1 x O4
9: Fx02 - 5 points - 1 x In1
9: OST-Nattetas - 5 points - 1 x In1
9: [dp]Elmort - 5 points - 1 x In1
9: Hellspawn[NK] - 5 points - 1 x In1


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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i really dont think you can justify giving the winner just two points more than what the runnerup gets, especially when its on this(1 - 10/20) scale, with the ammount of players entering these turneys, when it often takes only one DQ to get to the semi, you will be giving out lots of points for nothing, thats my opinion

ill give u an example how this system is flawed, you will have 2 guys entering every turney right from the start of the season, they are both highly skilled and they meet in the final of every one of them, one of these two is better and he always wins the final, after 4th turney win he gets bored and decides not to go for another, the other guy(always the runner up) hasnt won yet so he goes for it and he gets it! now what happened ? the guy who was clearly the best always beating his rival has 40 points, the other dude has 42......where is some justice !!??

i liked the previous system better even tho the difference between winning an OPEN an a PRO was maybe too high, but then again maybe not
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't give points to a player getting to the semi's without playing. Also as the tourneys fill up within 3 hours these days, I'm planning on increasing the player size to 32, this is all trial and error at the moment, we'll see how it goes like this for a while.

With the points as long as the number of times played and the placing is listed too it's quite easy to see who are the better players imo. A more refined system with percentages can be worked on later, this is just a trail at this stage Smile
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AH! Sam, you gotta let me back into Inter. for that! Razz ...seriously.

32 is a big number, even if they are all filled, the thread may overload and think how many no-shows, DQ's etc there will be.
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2005 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

theres been several 32 player tournaments before. nothing was wrong with them.
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2005 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ufon, I'll try and get something inbetween the two points systems we've had so far, I'll keep this one going till we get something worked out.

Also 5 points have been added for Int winners, as they can only win that once it gets them on the ladder ready for the open.
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2005 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wooooot Razz Very Happy

Personally i think it should be about 7 points, winning 4 matches ain't easy you know! Hmm, infact im the only one who had to win 4, all the others had 3!
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2005 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No way could it match the Open points, winning there is much harder, I think giving a win in Int the same as 4th in open is fair. At your skill level after winning the Int you have the chance to get into the points in the Open now.

Ok they have been changed again to Pro: 30>25>21>18 Open 15>11>8>6 Int stays at 5.
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2005 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CTF and TeamDm;

CTF Tourneys; 1st: 30 points. 2nd: 25 points. 3rd: 21 points. 4th: 18 points.
Team Tourneys; 1st: 15 points. 2nd: 11 points. 3rd: 8 points. 4th: 6 points.

key: C1 = CTF win, C2 = CTF 2nd, C3 = CTF 3rd, C4 = CTF 4th. T1 = Team win, T2 = Team 2nd, T3 = Team 3rd, T4 = Team 4th.

BH - 55 points - 1 x C1, 1 x C2
Pre - 45 points - 1 x C1, 1 x T1
*66 - 43 points - 1 x C2, 1 x C4
*[dp]-2 - 21 points - 1 x C3
Team Nightmare - 21 points - 1 x C3
Cro_Ownage - 18 points - 1 x C4
LG - 11 points - 1 x T2
Bad Taste - 8 points - 1 x T3
Nocturnal Crusaders - 6 points - 1 x T4

Now thanks to ufon we have individual player scores, so if a player switches teams between tourneys, they still get points. Scores are, CTF win 15 points per player, 2nd, 11 points, 3rd, 8 points, 4th, 6 points. Team DM win 7 points, 2nd, 4 points, 3rd, 2 points, 4th, 1 point. Only players that contribute to and play in the final position get points.

Vampire_Knight[NK] - 26 points - 1 x C1, 1 x C2.
[dp]Malvado - 26 points - 1 x C1, 1 x C2.
Tennie[NK] - 26 points - 1 x C1, 1 x C2.
BeRaN - 13 points - 1 x C1, 1 x T3.
*Titan_66 - 17 points - 1 x C2, 1 x C4.
*Thomas_TV - 17 points - 1 x C2, 1 x C4.
*Bubuss - 6 points - 1 x C4.
mr.twister - 22 points - 1 x C1, 1 x T1.
hokis - 22 points - 1 x C1, 1 x T1.
method - 7 points - 1 x T1.
ufon - 22 points - 1 x C1, 1 x T1.
Psy-Mushroom - 6 points - 1 x C4
BahdKo- 8 points - 1 x C3.
Radeg- 8 points - 1 x C3.
DevastatioN - 8 points - 1 x C3.
LG_The_Heretic - 4 points - 1 x T2.
LG_T.U.D - 4 points - 1 x T2.
LG_CodeImp - 4 points - 1 x T2.
[UD]Humanbones - 4 points - 1 x T2.
206 - 2 points - 1 x T3.
Poignant - 2 points - 1 x T3.
Kilgore - 2 points - 1 x T3.
Hellspawn[NK] - 1 point - 1 x T4.
Cartman - 1 point - 1 point - 1 x T4.
Tennie[NK] - 1 point - 1 point - 1 x T4.
deathstar- 1 point - 1 point - 1 x T4.

I've half done the scores for the CTF #2 Tourney, but I would really like to see 66 v [dp]-2 to determine 3rd and 4th place. Those marked with a * need a final score adjustment. Individual player points and placement will be arranged once that's done.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Updated with June Tourney points added.

Pro Tourneys; 1st: 30 points. 2nd: 25 points. 3rd: 21 points. 4th: 18 points.
Open Tourneys; 1st: 15 points. 2nd: 11 points. 3rd: 8 points. 4th: 6 points.
Int Tourneys; 1st: 5 points.

3rd and 4th place is determined by who loses to the eventual winner as that is (in theory) a tougher match. Jan is the beginning of the tournament year so here are the backdated points.

key: P1 = Pro win, P2 = Pro 2nd, P3 = Pro 3rd, P4 = Pro 4th. O1 = Open win, O2 = Open 2nd, O3 = Open 3rd, O4 = Open 4th. In1 = Int 1st.

1: Vampire Knight[NK] - 52 points - 1 x P4, 1 x O1, 1 x O2, 1 x O3
2: Ultrakill[NK] - 45 points - 3 x O1
3: Isus in Black - 36 points - 1 x P2, 1 x O2
4: [dp]Mephisto - 31 points - 1 x O1, 1 x O2, 1 x In1
5: Sedlo - 30 points - 1 x P1
6: Tennie[NK] - 22 points - 2 x O2
7: Psy_Mushroom - 21 points - 1 x P3
8: Dynamite - 15 points 1 x O2
9: Hotman - 14 points - 1 x O4, 1 x O3
10: MAZter_[LeD] - 11 points - 1 x O2
10: mr_twister - 11 points - 1 x O3
10: Xsnake - 11 points - 1 x O3
10: Bazooka - 11 points - 1 x O3
10: Deathstar - 11 points - 1 x O3
11: [dp]Malvado - 6 points - 1 x O4
11: GaryZZ - 6 points - 1 x O4
11: LG_Heretic - 6 points - 1 x O4
11: Subking - 6 points - 1 x O4
11: [dp]Punaxe - 6 points - 1 x O4
12: Fx02 - 5 points - 1 x In1
12: OST-Nattetas - 5 points - 1 x In1
12: [dp]Elmort - 5 points - 1 x In1
12: Hellspawn[NK] - 5 points - 1 x In1
12: Soulstrike - 5 points - 1 x In1
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well that's cool Sam, kinda like exp. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whos on top Rolling Eyes

And whos on bottom Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vampire Knight wrote:
Whos on top Rolling Eyes

And whos on bottom Razz


Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vampire Knight wrote:
Whos on top Rolling Eyes

And whos on bottom Razz


MUAHAHA offcourse vampire knight Razz I was hoping! And YES soulstrike on bottom, was hoping too Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

inf_spacepirate wrote:
Vampire Knight wrote:
Whos on top Rolling Eyes

And whos on bottom Razz


MUAHAHA offcourse vampire knight Razz I was hoping! And YES soulstrike on bottom, was hoping too Twisted Evil


I was reffering to hellspawn. just a joke Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vampire Knight wrote:
inf_spacepirate wrote:
Vampire Knight wrote:
Whos on top Rolling Eyes

And whos on bottom Razz


MUAHAHA offcourse vampire knight Razz I was hoping! And YES soulstrike on bottom, was hoping too Twisted Evil


I was reffering to hellspawn. just a joke Smile


HAHHAAHAA Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about the ffa tourney? Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Updated with August (apart from NS) Tourney points added, plus points for the FFA tourney.

Pro Tourneys; 1st: 30 points. 2nd: 25 points. 3rd: 21 points. 4th: 18 points.
Open/New School/FFA Tourneys; 1st: 15 points. 2nd: 11 points. 3rd: 8 points. 4th: 6 points.
Int Tourneys; 1st: 5 points.
Novice Tourney; 1st: 3 points.

3rd and 4th place is determined by who loses to the eventual winner as that is (in theory) a tougher match (FFA is by frags). Jan is the beginning of the tournament year so here are the backdated points.

key: P1 = Pro win, P2 = Pro 2nd, P3 = Pro 3rd, P4 = Pro 4th. O1 = Open win, O2 = Open 2nd, O3 = Open 3rd, O4 = Open 4th. In1 = Int 1st. N1 = Novice 1st. NS1 = New School 1st etc.

1: Vampire Knight[NK] - 60 points - 1 x P4, 1 x O1, 1 x O2, 1 x O3, 1 x FFA3
2: [dp]Mephisto - 57 points - 1 x O1, 1 x O2, 1 x In1, 1 x P2, 1 x NS1
3: Ultrakill[NK] - 45 points - 3 x O1
4: Isus in Black - 36 points - 1 x P2, 1 x O2
5: Bazooka - 34 points - 1 x O3, 1 x FFA2, 1 x O1
6: Sedlo - 30 points - 1 x P1
6: Tennie[NK] - 30 points - 2 x O2, 1 x NS3
7: [dp]Ragnarok - 24 points - 1 x In1, 1 x O3, 1 x NS2
8: Psy_Mushroom - 21 points - 1 x P3
9: MAZter_[LeD] - 19 points - 1 x O2, 1 x O3 (Russian)
10: Dynamite - 15 points 1 x O2
10: BeRaN - 15 points - 1 x FFA1
10: Reload - 15 points - 1 x P1
10: Maikl_Russia - 15 points - 1 x O1 (Russian)
11: Hotman - 14 points - 1 x O4, 1 x O3
12: BWolf - 11 points - 1 x O2 (Russian)
12: Darg - 11 points - 1 x O2
12: Soulstrike - 11 points - 1 x In1, 1 x O4
13: mr_twister - 8 points - 1 x O3
13: Xsnake - 8 points - 1 x O3
13: Deathstar - 8 points - 1 x O3
14: [BT]Kilgore - 6 points - 1 x NS4
14: LG_TUD - 6 points - 1 x FFA4
14: [dp]Malvado - 6 points - 1 x O4
14: GaryZZ - 6 points - 1 x O4
14: LG_Heretic - 6 points - 1 x O4
14: Subking - 6 points - 1 x O4
14: [dp]Punaxe - 6 points - 1 x O4
14: Ovod - 6 points - 1 x O4 (Russian)
15: Fx02 - 5 points - 1 x In1
15: OST-Nattetas - 5 points - 1 x In1
15: [dp]Elmort - 5 points - 1 x In1
15: Hellspawn[NK] - 5 points - 1 x In1
15: Soulstrike - 5 points - 1 x In1
16: [dp]Nazgul - 3 points - 1 x N1
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Updated with September Tourney points added.

Pro Tourneys; 1st: 30 points. 2nd: 25 points. 3rd: 21 points. 4th: 18 points.
Open/New School/FFA Tourneys; 1st: 15 points. 2nd: 11 points. 3rd: 8 points. 4th: 6 points.
Int Tourneys; 1st: 5 points.
Novice Tourney; 1st: 3 points.

3rd and 4th place is determined by who loses to the eventual winner as that is (in theory) a tougher match (FFA is by frags). Jan is the beginning of the tournament year so here are the backdated points.

key: P1 = Pro win, P2 = Pro 2nd, P3 = Pro 3rd, P4 = Pro 4th. O1 = Open win, O2 = Open 2nd, O3 = Open 3rd, O4 = Open 4th. In1 = Int 1st. N1 = Novice 1st. NS1 = New School 1st etc.

1: [dp]Mephisto - 68 points - 1 x O1, 2 x O2, 1 x In1, 1 x P2, 1 x NS1
2: Vampire Knight[NK] - 60 points - 1 x P4, 1 x O1, 1 x O2, 1 x O3, 1 x FFA3
3: Bazooka - 55 points - 1 x O3, 1 x FFA2, 1 x O1, 1 x O4, 1 x NS1
4: Ultrakill[NK] - 45 points - 3 x O1
5: Isus in Black - 36 points - 1 x P2, 1 x O2
6: Sedlo - 30 points - 1 x P1
6: Tennie[NK] - 30 points - 2 x O2, 1 x NS3
7: [dp]Ragnarok - 24 points - 1 x In1, 1 x O3, 1 x NS2
8: Psy_Mushroom - 21 points - 1 x P3
9: MAZter_[LeD] - 19 points - 1 x O2, 1 x O3 (Russian)
10: Tuomio - 15 points 1 x O1
10: BeRaN - 15 points - 1 x FFA1
10: Reload - 15 points - 1 x P1
10: Maikl_Russia - 15 points - 1 x O1 (Russian)
11: Hotman - 14 points - 1 x O4, 1 x O3
12: [NK]SpacePirate - 11 points - 1 x NS2
12: BWolf - 11 points - 1 x O2 (Russian)
12: Darg - 11 points - 1 x O2
12: Dynamite - 11 points 1 x O2
12: Soulstrike - 11 points - 1 x In1, 1 x O4
12: LG_TUD - 11 points - 1 x FFA4, 1 x In1
13: goldlike - 8 points - 1 x NS3
13: mr_twister - 8 points - 1 x O3
13: Xsnake - 8 points - 1 x O3
13: Deathstar - 8 points - 1 x O3
14: [dp]Aurelian - 6 points - 1 x NS4
14: [BT]Kilgore - 6 points - 1 x NS4
14: [dp]Malvado - 6 points - 1 x O4
14: GaryZZ - 6 points - 1 x O4
14: LG_Heretic - 6 points - 1 x O4
14: Subking - 6 points - 1 x O4
14: [dp]Punaxe - 6 points - 1 x O4
14: Ovod - 6 points - 1 x O4 (Russian)
15: Fx02 - 5 points - 1 x In1
15: OST-Nattetas - 5 points - 1 x In1
15: [dp]Elmort - 5 points - 1 x In1
15: Hellspawn[NK] - 5 points - 1 x In1
16: Kaba1 - 3 points - 1 x N1
16: [dp]Nazgul - 3 points - 1 x N1
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

October Tourney points added.

Pro Tourneys; 1st: 30 points. 2nd: 25 points. 3rd: 21 points. 4th: 18 points.
Open/New School/FFA Tourneys; 1st: 15 points. 2nd: 11 points. 3rd: 8 points. 4th: 6 points.
Int Tourneys; 1st: 5 points.
Novice Tourney; 1st: 3 points.

3rd and 4th place is determined by who loses to the eventual winner as that is (in theory) a tougher match (FFA is by frags). Jan is the beginning of the tournament year so here are the backdated points.

key: P1 = Pro win, P2 = Pro 2nd, P3 = Pro 3rd, P4 = Pro 4th. O1 = Open win, O2 = Open 2nd, O3 = Open 3rd, O4 = Open 4th. In1 = Int 1st. N1 = Novice 1st. NS1 = New School 1st etc.

1: Bazooka - 85 points - 1 x O3, 1 x FFA2, 2 x O1, 1 x O4, 2 x NS1
2: [dp]Mephisto - 76 points - 1 x O1, 2 x O2, 1 x O3, 1 x In1, 1 x P2, 1 x NS1
3: Vampire Knight[NK] - 66 points - 1 x P4, 1 x O1, 1 x O2, 1 x O3, 1 x O4, 1 x FFA3
4: Ultrakill[NK] - 45 points - 3 x O1
5: Tuomio - 37 points 1 x O1, 1 x O2, 1 x NS2
6: Isus in Black - 36 points - 1 x P2, 1 x O2
7: Sedlo - 30 points - 1 x P1
7: Tennie[NK] - 30 points - 2 x O2, 1 x NS3
8: [dp]Ragnarok - 24 points - 1 x In1, 1 x O3, 1 x NS2
9: Psy_Mushroom - 21 points - 1 x P3
10: MAZter_[LeD] - 19 points - 1 x O2, 1 x O3 (Russian)
11: BeRaN - 15 points - 1 x FFA1
11: Reload - 15 points - 1 x P1
11: Maikl_Russia - 15 points - 1 x O1 (Russian)
12: Hotman - 14 points - 1 x O4, 1 x O3
12: goldlike - 14 points - 1 x NS3, 1 x NS4
13: [NK]SpacePirate - 11 points - 1 x NS2
13: BWolf - 11 points - 1 x O2 (Russian)
13: Darg - 11 points - 1 x O2
13: Dynamite - 11 points 1 x O2
13: Soulstrike - 11 points - 1 x In1, 1 x O4
13: LG_TUD - 11 points - 1 x FFA4, 1 x In1
14: mr_twister - 8 points - 1 x O3
14: Xsnake - 8 points - 1 x O3
14: Deathstar - 8 points - 1 x O3
14: Pythonn - 8 points - 1 x NS3
15: [dp]Aurelian - 6 points - 1 x NS4
15: [BT]Kilgore - 6 points - 1 x NS4
15: [dp]Malvado - 6 points - 1 x O4
15: GaryZZ - 6 points - 1 x O4
15: LG_Heretic - 6 points - 1 x O4
15: Subking - 6 points - 1 x O4
15: [dp]Punaxe - 6 points - 1 x O4
15: Ovod - 6 points - 1 x O4 (Russian)
16: Fx02 - 5 points - 1 x In1
16: OST-Nattetas - 5 points - 1 x In1
16: [dp]Elmort - 5 points - 1 x In1
16: Hellspawn[NK] - 5 points - 1 x In1
16: spacepirate - 5 points 1 x In1
16: turSKA - 5 points - 1 x In1
17: Kaba1 - 3 points - 1 x N1
17: [dp]Nazgul - 3 points - 1 x N1
17: Graim - 3 points - 1 x N1


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