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int28
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

me 50 doomguy666 44 gg

I added this up wrong, we played two games too even out the pings a bit.
1st game me 50 doomguy 33
2nd game me 46 (I think) doomguy 50


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Vampire Knight
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HC-Marine wrote:
well I LOST by 3 frags... that's a fairly equal game. I won the first game fair and square but vampy can't lose to me, so being the usual pussy he can be he requests a rematch, the rematch pretty much proves that I didn't cheat the first game, but he doesn't care... anything for him to move up


Holy shit. There are supposed to be no "rematches" anymore. The first score should always stand. This sounds a bit strange to me, i dont know all the details though, but IMO i think marine should go through.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well after a shit load of controvesy, no demo to watch....

Fair is fair and foul is foul and all agreed that was the fairest way.

With no demo neither story was strong, so it may seem odd but what was even more odd was no demo so everyone is always urged to take a demo no matter what
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Arrogance
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vampire Knight wrote:
HC-Marine wrote:
well I LOST by 3 frags... that's a fairly equal game. I won the first game fair and square but vampy can't lose to me, so being the usual pussy he can be he requests a rematch, the rematch pretty much proves that I didn't cheat the first game, but he doesn't care... anything for him to move up


Holy shit. There are supposed to be no "rematches" anymore. The first score should always stand. This sounds a bit strange to me, i dont know all the details though, but IMO i think marine should go through.


Yeah but you know vampy... I beat him first game... cheating is not allowed.. and I can't beat vampy on that map so I must've cheated?

Vampy's just a sore loser... it's ok
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

got a screenshot cause those are usually recommended for these situations otherwise complaining doesnt really help Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This has caused a lot of controversy, because of "coincidences" and "possibilities", and frankly, a recording should have been made by both players, there is no excuse for not recording a tournament game.

The rematch was decided to be the best method of fairness by the tournament admin because of undisclosed details. There was an avoidable approach that was not taken by both of the members in the tournament, so the rematch was forced to take place.

And there is still a massive controversy over the matter of "who won the tournament game" and "who should move on" I guess, and this arguement is going to be around for maybe a long time.
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int28
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DevastatioN wrote:
This has caused a lot of controversy, because of "coincidences" and "possibilities", and frankly, a recording should have been made by both players, there is no excuse for not recording a tournament game.


I recorded my two games last night and got up this morning and decided to take a look. Suprise they where not there. This is a complete new install on a new hard drive. Apparently I needed to tell zdaemon where to save the demo's first. I did that this morning and poped in a game and it recorded (saved them) just fine.

Can't the admin server just look in the logs for the info for there first game?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well if you think of it logicly... if I "WAS" cheating wouldn't the second game where I has no possible way to cheat... shouldn't he beat me like 50-37... how'd I get 47 frags when I "didn't" cheat and only won by 3 when I did??? I know I should've recorded a demo... but meh... vampy won



*NOTE: I didn't say fair and square
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to add that i spectated and recoded both games for int28 if anyone needs to see the scores. i can upload them to whoever.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I, too, recorded both games vs Int28. The first (On Chicago) he beat me "50-33" and the second (US Central) I beat him "50-44." We decided this to be fair, seeing how he pings really good on one server and I on the other, but the added frag count of course makes him the overall winner.

gg Int
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I lost against Dred 50-39 or something.

Good job.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

me: 50
shakal: 27... i think, correct me if im wrong.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Badfish, when do you want to play me?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tonight or tomorrow night
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, weird game, shit happens, and you have to lose someday.

[UD]HumanBones - 50
HC-Strike - 41

gg I'd like another game sometime Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm having a hard time finding the time to play my opponent
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ralphis I've e-mailed u once again. Plz reply and see if that time if good for u.


*EDIT* - Oops, This is HC-Shadow_Ghost, I was on marine's comp, and forgot to sign in my name.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vampy - 50
Myself - 42

Ralphis drops out, so Ghost moves ahead.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Int28: if your around, come on #Zdaemon and #dui, and I'll prolly be around, so we can have our match. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey shadow i have to leave for a few tonite. i hope to get our game going later tonite. if i get back too late to play, i will be able to play for sure no matter what on friday!.

sorry for inconvenience.
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