ZDaemon

Madgunner · Dominating! Joined: 23 Nov 2003 Location: Atlanta,GA

Hey, I'm copying this from one of SonicDoomMario's posts, but I can also vouch that this is a DMFLAG that ZDaemon needs. If you play map 15 on Alien Vendetta, there is a trap that raises bars around you. You are supposed to be able to shoot a switch behind the bars, but it is currently impossible to do that in ZDaemon, as your shots will get blocked by the bars. In a recent version of ZDoom a flag that alleviates this issue was added called "Self referencing sectors don't block shots." Perhaps this can be backported into ZDaemon?

Cybershark · Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:05 pm Post subject:

I'd agree that it'd be nice if this could be supported ...but I have only ever seen this one complaint about this behaviour in all my time here and however true to Doom2.exe this'd make things it seems ridiculous to add a whole new DMFLAG for just one map. It'd be easier just to patch the map wouldn't it?

I'm sure there are other levels out there which have a similar problem but would anybody ever find or play them?

EarthQuake · Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:52 pm Post subject:

From what I can tell, it's the map which is the problem here. The sector raises up too far so that the player can't shoot over it. It doesn't matter if it's self-referencing or not. You shouldn't be able to shoot through it, because that's not how broken sector effects like that behave. Does this map work correctly in Vanilla Doom? If so, why does it work in vanilla Doom and not ZDaemon? That's what we should be solving, not providing some workaround for another problem that exists.

Madgunner · Dominating! Joined: 23 Nov 2003 Location: Atlanta,GA

Cybershark · Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:00 am Post subject:

I'm not familiar enough with the behaviour of such sectors in EXE to comment but I'll ask again: If it's only this one map that seems to have a problem with it then doesn't it make more sense to patch/skip the map rather than rewrite the engine?

Madgunner · Dominating! Joined: 23 Nov 2003 Location: Atlanta,GA

Kilgore · Air Cavalry Joined: 17 Jun 2003 Location: Up the river

If you can shoot through that in exe, then I think Madgunner is right and we need a DMFLAG for such a change in engine behavior.

I tried checking it in AV but the map is huge and I can't find the given trap. Madgunner: can you please provide a simple test-map demonstrating the problem? it will speed things up quite a bit.

Cybershark · Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:38 pm Post subject:

Kilgore · Air Cavalry Joined: 17 Jun 2003 Location: Up the river

Thx a lot for the map Cybershark and for all the help and efforts Madgunner. It's verified, already implemented and should appear on the next public release. Check the changelog.