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Vendetta #3 : Map choices and rules discussion
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Cybershark
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely! I'm just a little perplexed by this:

Thadeuss wrote:
ZDE map19 Vendetta edition

Is there some special version of that particular map?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think nero moved some spawns where he inteded them to be, because xsnake, in his wisdom, made edits for zde2.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, well aside from substituting Nero's original design in then it be compiled!

If anyone wants to make a title/intermission screen or a menu graphic then that'd be most welcome Wink


EDIT: Bored on a Saturday afternoon so I went ahead and made some so-so ones anyway.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome mate! Do you want the edited wad for Nero's map?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We sorted that out yesterday or the day before, can't remember. And I know of a lovely surprise that you're going to cream over, Thad!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol, I didn't put the kilty pic in. Figured we should try and keep it serious Razz

But yeah, all done and passed back to Thad for inspection. Hopefully I didn't make any huge balls-ups with the compilation and this tournament will be up and running real soon Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok i may be a bit lazy but how long until the compilation is complete so that i can download to see the maps that are being played, cybershark could u upload the mappack somewhere! Thanks Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

try irc next time
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A HorizoN server with this is up, check if the DMFLAGS are alright.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because this will be a friendly tourney. I recommand these pwads to run on top:
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy

Shame 'hands' doesn't have a replacement for the SSG. 'Hearts' does rock though.

[FEAR]Tobi wrote:
A HorizoN server with this is up, check if the DMFLAGS are alright.

I did put some in the text file with the WAD but they were just guesstimates. It's Thad's party, and so his call.

Seems he was happy enough with pack if he's passing around links, so I'll get it uploaded to the major wad hosts now.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

any news on this?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't want to hijack the sign up thread, so i'm redirecting my whining here.

Thadeuss wrote:
Sorry mate, I thought we discussed this a few weeks ago with Mortal and a few others in the channel.

eff that. discussed? yes, with no conclusion. you told me we would deal with this issue later. never happened.

Thadeuss wrote:
Clans are allowed one team only. If we have a terribly poor turn out of clans, then maybe we can have more than one team, but for now no. Some clans such as I>. QnB, THE, PLAS etc don't have enough players to field two active teams. Clans like UBR and CI would have an advantage then in fielding more than one team each, hell UBR could probably field 4 teams.

we have a strong roster capable of making two teams. these people came to our clan to play high stakes ctf, which is prominent in competitive games. to win, you need to train and get used to your team. rotating ~8 players in one team is retarded. forging a 'B team' and letting it play just the less challenging opponents is condescending and robs them of the reason they came to the clan in the first place. ignoring them for the sake of top efficiency... ehh, are you asking me to drive them out of the clan or what?

Thadeuss wrote:
While it may cause annoyance to the clans with bigger rosters (especially my own), I think it would cause a conflict of interest with clans being able to affect results through fixing etc.

i call bs. this logic dictates i should ban either mortal or welkin from euro 1on1 tourneys, because frankly, where else will you find greater potential for match fixing? 'etc' doesn't exactly calm my anger.

of course, vendetta is your tourney, so YOU run it as you see fit. organizing shit is tough and someone will always end up pissed off. i'm bitching, because it's unfair from my perspective. therefore, i won't press on the matter and just shut up and fuck off. as i said, there's enough people in CI to play even without myself.
Hope that clears that up.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, but this is a tournament between clans and if one clan has like 2 or 4 teams, they have much better chance to win the tourney, which is unfair for the smaller clans. It's like some guy is playing a tourney, loses and he comes back "Lol guise I'm back who do I play".

Okay well not exactly, but hopefully you get the point.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed.

In the past we've had Zdaemon CTF tourneys in which the teams were not limited to or by clans. Vendetta is.

If you want the kind of rumble you're suggesting then you know what to do about it Mr. Tourney Admin Razz
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, I don't see a real problem with a second team from another clan if the teams are predefined apart from maybe bad sportmanship. And I seriously doubt a situation of bad sportmanship will happen. The more teams signing up, the more we can demolish. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ronald did you even read what Tuomio wrote? Yet still you 'see no problem' with clans signing up more than one team? Rolling Eyes

How about if I want to enroll 7 different plas teams then? They will all be the same core players but will all vary by one member so they are all quite different teams. This would give absolutely no advantage to our anti-klaas group and I don't see any problem with it Laughing

Anyways, this isn't even a discussion. For one then you've had months to bring this up. Causing a scene at the time of the sign-ups is not on. But moreover this is just not the way Vendetta has worked in the past and it has never been an issue in the last two battles so why is it suddenly a problem now?


Respect Thad's format or arrange your own damn tournies.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cybershark wrote:
Ronald did you even read what Tuomio wrote? Yet still you 'see no problem' with clans signing up more than one team? Rolling Eyes


I did read that, and that's why I said I don't see a problem if these teams are predefined. For example, if you have 6 active members all eager to play, you can submit two teams containing 3 people. Example:

Team 1
Member 2
Member 4
Member 6

Team 2
Member 1
Member 3
Member 5

I still don't see a problem if that's the format. Just expressing my opinion on the matter.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's really not rocket science Roland, and I thought Tuomio explained it well enough:

2 teams = double the chances that a clan may win.

This tourney is about clans rather than teams, ergo this is a bad idea.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But within CI we have two teams that play against eachother anyways (Alpha/Omega (Cool we know)) and we'd love to split them in Vendetta, but we can't so fair enough.
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