Joined: 16 Jun 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:52 pm Post subject:
lol backseat mods
Anywho, as I'm generous enough to provide a server for this, I would like to know the correct DM flags. They're currently set at something. Let me know cheers.
CZ server is a quality server, but I get shocking play there, it's just not nice at all. I get a better "feeling" at the New York servers and I ping 100 there compared to the "60" I'm supposed to get at CZ. Either way, I'll happily play on L@P or Red Nexus
Joined: 10 May 2005 Location: Sweden \m/ Clan: [dp]
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:54 pm Post subject:
Some good point are brought up.
- Server policy (perhaps L@P, otherwise we'll have to think of something fair)
- Switching members in between games
- dmflags and dmflags2 (but I suppose they are the same as the other zductf servers)
- Xplosive's situation
Ill have to discuss those with Draza and then we'll post our decision asap.
Joined: 10 May 2005 Location: Sweden \m/ Clan: [dp]
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:39 pm Post subject:
Ok so me and Draza spoke about the mentioned points, and these are our answers:
1) Spoke to Kilgore and he said he would try to get in contact with the Godfather, so hopefully L@P will host a server. If this will indeed happen, not all games have to be played there. "All-english" games can of course be played on Platinum, and "all-Czech" games on Oblacek. And in a case of a Czech team and an English team, 2 on 2 could be played.
Anyway with 3 servers up, I think all teams should come to an agreement
2) Member switching between maps is ok with us. Just we're not ok with the back-up people spectating in game, for they could help their own team via teamspeak. So only 3 players per team are allowed in the server at the same time.
4) Explosive cannot take part in this tourney, so NK should find a new 3rd player.
I know that especially the last point will cause some trouble. However I'd like to ask you to use this topic for registration, or specific questions about the tourney only. So if people need to say something about this, PM me or Draza, because your post will be deleted from this topic.
Last thing to say for me is: Keep on registering!. We'll start this tourney during the first week of October .
I'm just going to touch on #4. We have proof that Xplosiv3 is indeed ban evading. Therefore, he is not eligible to enter this tournament, or any other tournament for that matter. Further explanation:
1. He was originally banned for cheating. That would disqualify him from tournaments in its own right.
2. He is evading that ban. The rules state that anyone who is banned will not be allowed to enter tournaments. Especially cheaters.
I'm not trying to steal Rag/Draza's job (), but you need to find a new player. If you have any questions, please PM either Rag, Draza, or myself. This was only posted here for explanation purposes.
Cool, just found out some information about that Xplosiv3 guy and even if he was allowed to play, i'd have not participated with that prick on my team. Anyway let ze search begin for our third player...!
4) Explosive cannot take part in this tourney, so NK should find a new 3rd player.
I know that especially the last point will cause some trouble. However I'd like to ask you to use this topic for registration, or specific questions about the tourney only. So if people need to say something about this, PM me or Draza, because your post will be deleted from this topic.
Well, the original argument was that himself (hawk) was not the cheater, that was in fact his brothers doing. In light of that, i thought it very harsh on him to be labelled a hacker as well. I suppose if the incident weapon mentioned hadn't of occured, i would have been defending hawk just for that reason. However, in light of new information and evidence, which really showed he can't be trusted, im not sure i can believe anything he says at all. So, with this in mind, i accept and respect the moderators decision.
Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Location: www.areashiftybun.com
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:38 am Post subject:
Sorry have to comment, weapon & Vampire, you both knew who he was. You also BOTH knew Kilgore caught the cheat on Hawk and Soul's accounts as I told you both early on. And last but by no means least, you are lying Vampire, because you told me point blank that Hawk confided in you that he had cheated. Sorry, but this is BS. I like Hawk, but atleast he knew how I felt about him being banned, not like you guys totally backtracking about what you already knew.
It is the lamest thing I've ever seen you two lying through your teeth about either not knowing who he was or not knowing that he had cheated.
All I can say is you better hope Slashher and Malv don't end up in your clan (although I hear Slashher is already a member).
Sorry Draz for jumping into the tourney discussion with this, I jsut wanted to get that off my chest and I won't reply to anything other than tourney posts, but people are lying through their teeth and that's just bullshit...
Oh yeh and is the registration for this still running? Me Cybershark and Poignant would like to sign up if it is for some fun games.
Team Name: The three Amigos
Captain: Dusty Bottoms (Thad)
Roster: Ned Nederlander (Poignant), Lucky Day (Cybershark), Dusty Bottoms(Thadeuss)
PPT: Evenings GMT
Contact: (Email and Msn Addy micw778@yahoo.com IRC channel #ubr)
Sorry have to comment, weapon & Vampire, you both knew who he was. You also BOTH knew Kilgore caught the cheat on Hawk and Soul's accounts as I told you both early on. And last but by no means least, you are lying Vampire, because you told me point blank that Hawk confided in you that he had cheated. Sorry, but this is BS. I like Hawk, but atleast he knew how I felt about him being banned, not like you guys totally backtracking about what you already knew.
It is the lamest thing I've ever seen you two lying through your teeth about either not knowing who he was or not knowing that he had cheated.
All I can say is you better hope Slashher and Malv don't end up in your clan (although I hear Slashher is already a member).
Sorry Draz for jumping into the tourney discussion with this, I jsut wanted to get that off my chest and I won't reply to anything other than tourney posts, but people are lying through their teeth and that's just bullshit...
Oh yeh and is the registration for this still running? Me Cybershark and Poignant would like to sign up if it is for some fun games.
Team Name: The three Amigos
Captain: Dusty Bottoms (Thad)
Roster: Ned Nederlander (Poignant), Lucky Day (Cybershark), Dusty Bottoms(Thadeuss)
PPT: Evenings GMT
Contact: (Email and Msn Addy micw778@yahoo.com IRC channel #ubr)
I'll tell you whats bullshit, you interfering and spurting your mouth off on a matter in which you don't hold all the facts. First off, yes we knew Xplosive was hawk, we never tried to state otherwise. Please provide me with proof/evidence that i ever tried to cover up the fact that hawk was Xplosive. As far as i am aware, Rag knew this and i was willing to defend him when it came to it.
I was very reluctant to let Hawk into the clan initially, the others will vouch for that, but at the end of the day i relented, as everyone was prepared to give him a second chance (in terms of his past behavior as he was renowned as a trouble maker).
Regarding the cheating allegations; Yes i remember our conversation and i wouldn't even contemplate in trying to deny it. However, what he said to me was not as blatant "omfg i hacked and have been hacking for ages, using it on this server and that person", all he said was that he tried it on a friend (who knew about it as well) in a server, once. Does that make it right? No. Does it mean hes a blatant hacker and can't be forgiven? No. I suppose you could say Urhash did a similar thing, although the motives were probably different. He confirmed all this to me when he joined the clan, and as i was giving him a second chance, because like you, i like the lad (although he's far from perfect), i was willing to forgive and forget his mistakes, as were all of us. Did i believe what he confided in me? Yes, i've known him for a while and one thing he is not, is an out and out cheater looking to better his skills or amusement levels through hacking.
You know that hawk is not an out and out cheater, yeah he made a mistake and he will pay for it eventually, but he was not a consistent hacker with the motives to cheat people (like his brother was). Maybe you can't get round that, but thats you, and i am, thankfully, not you. You made your stand against it, fair enough, but it doesn't mean i have to go off your standards or markers, especially if the circumstances are forgivable.
I said it before and ill say it again; I would have defended him bar the incident that led to his exit from the clan. As it is, i will not be.
Thad: i suggest you keep your heroic crusades to yourself, especially if they involve insulting accusations. Or perhaps learn a little of the facts that shape the issue as a whole. For the record: Slashher and Malvado will not be joining NK. That you can count on.
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Nah, me getting "pwned" would entail me getting flamed/accused by an individual and not having the creditable answers to defend or explain myself. But as you can see, i did. It's all up there for people to see and judge accordingly.
Just like you to get involved though Turksa, nothing to do with you, but i guess you have to make your life remotely interesting.
Like Thad said; we have said our pieces, lets have fun and enjoy the tournament \m/
Joined: 27 Aug 2005 Location: Slovenija FTW Clan : [dp]
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:20 pm Post subject:
In the end, Vampire... you are still lame (or stupid?), trying to sneak a cheater in the tournament and win with cheats.
Just like in the previous tournaments with the other cheater, malvado.
Like Thad said; we have said our pieces, lets have fun and enjoy the tournament \m/
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