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ocelot has entered the game!
Joined: 05 Oct 2004
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:25 pm Post subject: What exactly are youall planning to do to strafe50... |
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Manual strafe50 must remain an option. That is, activating strafe50 by either 1.mouse strafing, or 2.holding down a turn button, strafe on button, and strafe to side button at the same time. This is not going anywhere, right?
The only thing that might go away is the possibility of activating st50 with one button only, right? |
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Kilgore Air Cavalry
Joined: 17 Jun 2003 Location: Up the river
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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Sure; we're only investigating about how to block various "automation style" macros without crippling the entire thing. I don't think that there should be any controversy about this; if anything, it's closer to the design of the original. |
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Doomination God like!
Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Location: It's NOT lupus. Posts: 6.022 x 10^23
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 7:05 pm Post subject: Re: What exactly are youall planning to do to strafe50... |
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ocelot wrote: | Manual strafe50 must remain an option. That is, activating strafe50 by either 1.mouse strafing, or 2.holding down a turn button, strafe on button, and strafe to side button at the same time. This is not going anywhere, right?
The only thing that might go away is the possibility of activating st50 with one button only, right? |
I have it done with two keys, forward and one key bound to three things; strafe on, strafe left/right, and turn left/right.
ESDF, E+R = SR50 right, E+W = SR50 left. |
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DevastatioN God like!
Joined: 31 Jul 2002 Location: Nova Scotia
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, Doominations method is the wrong way, that should be stopped. |
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Doomination God like!
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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DevastatioN wrote: | Yes, Doominations method is the wrong way, that should be stopped. |
I only do that because my keyboard can only have 2 keys pressed down at the same time. When it is stopped, I guess I will have to do without SR50. Carry on. |
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DX-Chain God like!
Joined: 24 Jan 2006
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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You ladies will get burned in CTF either way, old style or new style (I use conventional style btw).
See you in Euro CTF . |
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Da_maniaC Now with new lemon fresh scent!
Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1337
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:13 am Post subject: |
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Doomination wrote: | DevastatioN wrote: | Yes, Doominations method is the wrong way, that should be stopped. |
I only do that because my keyboard can only have 2 keys pressed down at the same time. When it is stopped, I guess I will have to do without SR50. Carry on. |
Different keyboard drivers usually solve this problem.
I agree with devastation though.... triple binding keys makes it too easy.
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ufon God like!
Joined: 25 Aug 2003 Location: Czech republic
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:26 am Post subject: |
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Doomination wrote: | DevastatioN wrote: | Yes, Doominations method is the wrong way, that should be stopped. |
I only do that because my keyboard can only have 2 keys pressed down at the same time. When it is stopped, I guess I will have to do without SR50. Carry on. |
yea i know what you mean about the keyboard, im using a keyboard key for fire and i can't play on most keyboards
i suggest you either get a better keyboard or switch to mouse strafing for SR50(meaning you will bind "strafe on" to a mouse button and use mouse movement for turn left/right, which i believe to be the best method anyway) |
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Doomination God like!
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:13 am Post subject: |
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ufon wrote: | Doomination wrote: | DevastatioN wrote: | Yes, Doominations method is the wrong way, that should be stopped. |
I only do that because my keyboard can only have 2 keys pressed down at the same time. When it is stopped, I guess I will have to do without SR50. Carry on. |
yea i know what you mean about the keyboard, im using a keyboard key for fire and i can't play on most keyboards
i suggest you either get a better keyboard or switch to mouse strafing for SR50(meaning you will bind "strafe on" to a mouse button and use mouse movement for turn left/right, which i believe to be the best method anyway) | '
I would, but I already have all my mouse buttons gone. Mouse3 is use, and Mouse2 is jump. Mouse1 is fire. I wish I could get another keyboard, but I share this computer with four other people, and they'd never allow a competition keyboard. Guess when it's eliminated I'll just have to use sr40 |
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Stealth Gone with the wind
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:20 am Post subject: |
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Doomination wrote: | Guess when it's eliminated I'll just have to use sr40 |
Or... learn the proper way? Really, you shouldn't rely on the keyboard so much. I can play mouse-only with my left hand and sip a beer in the other |
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Doomination God like!
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:40 am Post subject: |
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StealthCP wrote: | Doomination wrote: | Guess when it's eliminated I'll just have to use sr40 |
Or... learn the proper way? Really, you shouldn't rely on the keyboard so much. I can play mouse-only with my left hand and sip a beer in the other |
how many mouse buttons do you have? I only have three.
edit: gah why do I get myself involved in threads? I hate having attention. |
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Isus_in_black. On a Rampage!
Joined: 23 May 2004
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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Lol 8 posts oce, thats got to be a record
I dont use SR50, I used to but it turned out to be more of a distraction
than of much practical use (except when getting away from spawnkilling) |
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Consigliori God like!
Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Location: Where ya least expect him...
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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If you practiced it enough you'd realise that statement is wrong on almost every level... |
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EarthQuake Wicked Sick!
Joined: 02 Apr 2004 Location: Athens, Ohio. Dieblieber gonna getcha!
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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StealthCP wrote: | Or... learn the proper way? Really, you shouldn't rely on the keyboard so much. I can play mouse-only with my left hand and sip a beer in the other |
I'm intrigued. Please disclose your mouse configuration to us. |
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Stealth Gone with the wind
Joined: 09 Nov 2004
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:35 am Post subject: |
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heh, it's just that from classic doom, generally, though due to the nature of my brain I keep the mouse configured for right hand - I seem to automatically use the opposite fingers, same if I chose or had to use the mouse in the left in Explorer (as is necessary when in bed ) So yes it's mouse1-fire, mouse2-strafe and doublemouse2-open, however I use space still in this setup.
Apart from that it's more mouse+key assist, I would still change weapons with the keyboard. I only use my mouse-only skill as a novelty, it's nowhere near on par with my general mouse+keys configuration, however it's fun to impress the mates close by and challenge them to a one sided match I should practice it more, I have a feeling I'm going to lose one of my hands these days
EDIT: I might add that I played keyboard only when I was 5, then mouse only + a few keys from I was about 6-10 years old. I'm now 17, though joined ZDaemon when I was 14 and started using keys+mouse, with ESDF. Apart from that I use DevastatioN's form of SR-50, certainly more natural, and the easiest legal way of doing it imo |
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Doomination God like!
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:46 am Post subject: |
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oh, heh, I was imagining like someone playing doom at their full potential with only a mouse. |
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Stealth Gone with the wind
Joined: 09 Nov 2004
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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Doomination wrote: | oh, heh, I was imagining like someone playing doom at their full potential with only a mouse. |
I could if I tried, though I've stopped playing since august, so that'd axe me quite a bit |
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EarthQuake Wicked Sick!
Joined: 02 Apr 2004 Location: Athens, Ohio. Dieblieber gonna getcha!
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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Erm, so how do you run? Backwards? No special binds or anything?
Hell I have a 5 button mouse. I should put that to use, no? |
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Skater Unstoppable!
Joined: 05 Jun 2002 Location: Philadelphia - The Cradle of Liberty
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:19 am Post subject: |
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I use the mouse to fire and open stuff only, the key board to move.. |
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Stealth Gone with the wind
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:52 am Post subject: |
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EarthQuake wrote: | Erm, so how do you run? Backwards? No special binds or anything? |
I move the mouse backward
EarthQuake wrote: | Hell I have a 5 button mouse. I should put that to use, no? |
Certainly. I have a five button mouse too and it helps extremely well with mouse+keys and mouse only. As most of you know mouse only is generally accompanied by an extremely high sensitivity too. Fair enough, there are reasons for that. A simple Microsoft Intellimouse Optical and the proprietary drivers allow me to set the side button to gather more precision, e.g. lower sensitivity. Excellent.
My other side button is often TeamSpeak chat |
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