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cockad
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:30 pm    Post subject: Respawning into objects Reply with quote

Hi!

I'm not sure whether this is a bug or it is considered to be a feature request. When "spawn where died" dmflag is activated, the players can respawn and can get stuck in obstacles or objects.

Can this case be handled the same way as the damaging floors? So if the player was respawned into the object then the program would just teleport them back to the starting point. Thus they can't get stuck and don't need to reconnect either.

Maybe this could be done by giving the stuck player an artiteleport artifact and activating it immediately.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moved to confirmed.

Here is a demo wad: http://85.214.149.120/demowads/samespawnspot_demo1.wad
The map shows how you can get stuck:

● Ceiling (or floor) moves, you die and respawn. There is not not enough space to spawn.
● You die on a bridge and respawn.
● A thing spawns at the place you died before you respawn and you stuck in a Thing.

If nukage kills you, you spawn on the Player Start (that's correct).
This should also happen if you would spawn in a place you stuck (bug).
Fix: Spawn on the Player Start.

Hint: Use Spawn Where Died (sv_samespawnspot 1).
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ceiling (or floor) moves

Does this also refer to the crushing ceilings/floors?

I tested your wad and I can't die at the left switch where the torch appears because the rocket thrusts me away from the torch.
A minor question to this: How can the rockets of the rocket launcher be set so they could hurt the player but wouldn't thrust him?

On the other hand, there is an interesting thing about respawns.

If I go to the lowering ceiling and shoot into the wall (facing towards the wall) I will be definitely thrusted back to the floor in ZDaemon and in ZDoom too. But when I respawn, ZDaemon somehow puts me back from where I shot the rocket and thus I get stuck into the ceiling. But at the same time ZDoom puts me where my body was previously thrusted to. Thus: no getting stuck at all.

The same phenomenon happens at the bridge. When the player is respawned ZDaemon puts him back to the bridge, while in ZDoom you'll be respawned on the normal floor.

So for me it seems that the thrusted deaths have something to do with the respawns.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crushers work the same way as the nukage does. It's a death without a killer (player/monster) and so you spawn at the Player Start.

Important is, it's the place where you die, not where your corpse stops sliding.

Here 3 demos which show sticking after respawn:
http://85.214.149.120/demos/2019-07-25_191803_samespawnspot_demo1.zdd
http://85.214.149.120/demos/2019-07-25_191609_samespawnspot_demo1.zdd
http://85.214.149.120/demos/2019-07-25_191541_samespawnspot_demo1.zdd
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes the sliding can be clearly seen in the bridge demo. Your corpse is thrusted away, though you are respawned into the bridge.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fixed for 1.10.10.
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