ZDaemon

[WDR]Maiden · Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:08 am Post subject: game crash problem

When I play in a local game, the game crashes every time a pain elemental dies. It doesn't do that in a server, only local game. I have ZD 1.08.07. Can anyone please tell me why this happens, and how to fix it?
Thank You,

tYe · Posting Spree! Joined: 05 Sep 2007 Location: Vancouver, WA

Thats odd. I never get that issue.

I play Local a lot too.

TimeOfDeath · Unstoppable! Joined: 03 Nov 2004

Just tested and it doesn't crash for me. What wad are you playing?

[WDR]Maiden · Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:43 am Post subject:

Sniper · Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:01 am Post subject:

maybe the elemental you kill is linked to a part of the map changing etc like a wall moving or something which is causing the problem?

if however there is more than one, then i wouldnt really know what to suggest 8(

[WDR]Maiden · Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:17 am Post subject:

it can't be that it's linked to part of the map changing...because it happens no matter what map i play, or what wad i play

TimeOfDeath · Unstoppable! Joined: 03 Nov 2004

I'd guess that it might have to do with the dehacked in xtremegunz. But I don't know why it wouldn't crash online. When you play online, are you using xtremegunz?

[WDR]Maiden · Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:34 am Post subject:

That might be the problem TOD. I noticed that it only does it on xtremegunz. lemme check now

[WDR]Maiden · Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:38 am Post subject:

yeah, it was the xtremegunz mod. Thanks. That sucks because i liked playing on that mod

Da_maniaC · Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:49 pm Post subject:

There are still quite some differences in Local and Online mode.
Some part of the coding might even be discarded in and Online game just because it hasn't been implemented or fully tested yet, which would explain why you are not having the issue there.

Not to advertise or anything... But might i suggest you try my da_madness weapons mod.
I guess its a little more crazy then some other weapons mods out there but as far as i know it does not crash any games in local as well as offline mode. I've played tons of wads with it both online and offline.
The only thing you have to worry about is the inmense speed of the SSG which tends to lag the server if you keep firing directly at a wall for more then 4 seconds.

K!r4 · On a Rampage! Joined: 24 Mar 2008

Da_maniaC · Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:29 pm Post subject:

[WDR]Maiden · Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:50 pm Post subject:

Empyre · Unstoppable! Joined: 13 Dec 2006 Location: Texas, USA

Maybe xtremegunz was made for zdoom, not for zdaemon? Some wads that were made for zdoom work in zdaemon, and some don't.

Da_maniaC · Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:24 pm Post subject:

Cybershark · Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:05 am Post subject:

Just stop trying to run this stuff on every damn server Sad

Superguns, Da_madness, extremeguns, whatever, they can only be run sensibly on 'vanilla' Co-op maps - ones that don't mess with the monsters via DEHACKED.

Running them on WADs like Invasion UAC, Coopbuild, etc just ruins any gameplay.

K!r4 · On a Rampage! Joined: 24 Mar 2008

Well, I don't see why you need a supergun wad on ZDaemon : when you are killed you can respawn, at least you don't ruin the gameplay.

Da_maniaC · Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:08 pm Post subject:

Cybershark · Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:06 pm Post subject:

Heh, naw it's nothing to do with personal feeling and there is no 'level of compatibility' - it's all or nothing.

The simple fact is that any weapons mod overwrites the (dehacked) code in the main WAD. So you lose any creativity that went into that area such as altered monster hit points, existing weapon modifications and thing replacement. In the case of Invasion UAC or CoopBuild then it screws over the changed monsters.

Coopbuild for example turns some decorative sprites into new monster types. Run a mod and they're back to being plain old decorations so the sum is definitely lesser than the parts.

Go run Da_madness on top of something like Zmas and see if you're happy with how it ends up looking and playing Razz