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[n00b]Adereth
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Factual interlude: Force respawn was removed in 1.08 because it was never used, and mostly annoying (the dmflag now decides whether or not you become a spectator after a few minutes of being dead.)
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would like to see a forcerespawn on those tiny ffa maps with less respawn points than players.. or that thing in 2dmmaps...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

they're not FFA maps. that's why they have 'more spawn points than players'.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Either 40 or 50 frags is good, although the short-lived 2dmmaps with a 75-frag limit was a blast Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

40 is ok for most of the ffa maps
for some fast paced maps (eg. forever) fraglimit 100 or timelimit would be nice
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well 50 is for me a tad too long. 40 is ok !
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm pretty sure WhiteKnight was only asking with regard to duels. there's never been any sort of standard for FFA as nobody really cares if the limit's 10 or 100. oh wait, obviously the expkiddies do Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

50 is far too long, i don't have 3 and half ours to waste playing a campy game of d5m1. Fuck that and fuck you. 40.

And if u are gna keep em to 50, just up the CTF flags aswell to 10, see how many people you satisfy Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

40 is fine, if it ain't broke, why fix it, I've never seen anyone else in Europe complain about it.

As for FFA, couldn't give a fuck, it's aload of shit now anyway.

On what WeaponX said about CTF and what I said regarding time limit with infinite frags, I would like to try out a CTF game that lasts 15 minutes but has an infinite flag limit, think of the amount of times a team can come back from near defeat and the amount of absolute arse kickings that can result from a good team and a useless team.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that there should be a server up for TimeLimit rather then Flag Limit when it comest to CTF, could be some GG's especially when results end up like 10-9 etc Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm also for a time limit instead of frag limit in CTF... Would make the game better than it is now I'd say...
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DemonChildXP wrote:
I'm also for a time limit instead of frag limit in CTF... Would make the game better than it is now I'd say...


:0 Did you mean: Flag limit?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oops... yep Embarassed
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cybershark wrote:
i'm pretty sure WhiteKnight was only asking with regard to duels. there's never been any sort of standard for FFA as nobody really cares if the limit's 10 or 100. oh wait, obviously the expkiddies do Rolling Eyes


One day maybe we'll have a thread in which you don't in some way complain about exp, Brit10, FFA... Rolling Eyes
I mean, I don't care for CTF but I don't go on and on about that... Razz
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's unlikely. besides, i'm not alone. i bitch about it because as a greater man noted:
Englander wrote:
it's aload of shit now anyway.

and he might not give a fuck but i do. i still have enjoyable games in the US but hate that the Euro scene is such a cesspool (and mainly due to one damn WAD)

this was kinda a serious discussion about 1on1 fraglimits (and then CTF). and as ever all people like you and Libor are after is "zomg! higher fraglimits! no fraglimits! must get more exp!111!!". oh and your profile makes me laugh btw.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cybershark do you get paid by the word or by the count of people who go Rolling Eyes ? why being such a content police? europe has strong ffa presence and you wont wish it away with spiteful words. like, yeah, pick on libor. i can totally see the exp whorage leaking from his every word. games on forever lasting longer than 30 seconds? preposterous! even playing it as ffa is heresy!
anyways, ive had some nice 4 player games of brit11 and greenwar today and i would welcome higher limits on those. especially 30 on gw seems very.. duel like and plays in the hands of campers. i can imagine that the bigger maps might drag on with fewer players, but removing map11 would remove the worst obstacle and might even cure cancer.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dewww wrote:
cybershark do you get paid by the word or by the count of people who go Rolling Eyes ? why being such a content police?

paid by the word count? hmm... i'll definitely enquire about that Smile
and why should i remain silent on this any more than Englander should? we used to enjoy regular varied FFA and now we don't. sure i can pull a few friends together and we can start something less-frequented but it shouldn't have to be that way.
since i last posted i've been and played on DoomedEarth's ocadd2b and n00b's RailwarzII. both EXP-free servers but shockingly they were both busy and fun! Shocked
it just galls me as a Euro that i have to wait for other timezones' players before i can get an interesting game.

dewww wrote:
europe has strong ffa presence and you wont wish it away with spiteful words. like, yeah, pick on libor. i can totally see the exp whorage leaking from his every word.

lol, he was suggesting unlimited time or 100frags! suuuure, that was all in the interests of 'gameplay' Wink
and as for this 'presence' all i see is an army of expkiddies doing what they do best.

dewww wrote:
games on forever lasting longer than 30 seconds? preposterous! even playing it as ffa is heresy!

generally, yes it is. 4 players isn't so bad. but all people want to do is cram more and more into maps whose weapon placement was designed for 2 - ie where you can always have your eye on the guy running for/with the BFG - and were not intended to give out all those multikills. real FFA mappers do not put giveaways like that in - and real players do not expect them. but noooo, that's still not enough for the fragwhores who have to have jump enabled in those tiny maps just so it'll take them half a second instead of a whole one to reach that BFG Rolling Eyes

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anyways, ive had some nice 4 player games of brit11 and greenwar today and i would welcome higher limits on those. especially 30 on gw seems very.. duel like and plays in the hands of campers. i can imagine that the bigger maps might drag on with fewer players, but removing map11 would remove the worst obstacle and might even cure cancer.

hahaha, map11. that one's kinda fun sometimes but not with few players. i'd rather see maps 04,06 and 08 out Wink
30 is low for FFA but as you say it's helpful to keep players interested until the server gets busy.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you think my profile is amusing then you probably don't do irony.
How about you grow up and get over it, and accept that people play the game in different ways and for different reasons? It was indeed a serious discussion until you started your usual sniping about exp kiddies and FFA.
There's nothing wrong with criticising something, just not all the time...
Lets just live and let live ehh? Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hand-of-Doom: Well, good sir, when the thread in question is meant to change server administration policy, it's important that it be made clear who is saying what, for what reasons, and how it reflects on server health overall. EXP stuff has been theorised to be unhealthy for the player base, as newcomers get frustrated with a lack of variety in what is being played by large numbers of people.

Dewww: Libor is ranked #4 for EXP on ZDaemon, and as of this moment has 2162485 points. There are few voices who speak from the perspective of spamminess louder than he does. Furthermore, the author of Forever has made clear he doesn't want games on Forever to even have more than two players in them, because the results are ridiculous. (Also, unlike Cybershark, I am paid by the word, so prepare for some pain, n'stuff.)
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair comment, Adereth. Smile

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