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ZDUCTF (maps 10,14,23,28) |
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ZDCTFMP3 (maps 22,26,27,28) |
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44% |
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ZDCTFMP1/2/3 - TEAM DAMAGE ON (maps 03,09,16,18) |
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8% |
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Draza_Jr. Unstoppable!
Joined: 30 Sep 2005 Location: Czech Republic
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:13 pm Post subject: Registration for the #5 3 vs 3 CTF Tourney |
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Ok finally we were able to meet each other and choose some maps for you guys...
Now it´s up to you what will you choose..as you can see, we have prepared maps for all 3 options so as soon as the registration is finished, we´ll check the poll results and the tourney will start immediately..
Registration form:
Team Name:
Captain:
Roster:
PPT: (preferred playing time)
Contact: (Captain's contact details)
Last edited by Draza_Jr. on Sat Sep 15, 2007 8:46 am; edited 2 times in total |
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Ragnarok Unstoppable!
Joined: 10 May 2005 Location: Sweden \m/ Clan: [dp]
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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The reason we dont let you choose from 3 diferent wads other than zdctfmp, is that tourneys with other wads tend to have trouble getting finished (or even started) since a lot of people are unfamiliar with those maps.
Also maps used in Euro CTF #4 havent been picked again for these 3 options (so no 04, 07, 11 and 24). Same goes for the maps played during the last zductf tourney (so no 05, 06, 17 and 26).
For the 3rd option maps were chosen, which normally are a bit campy, for they require a different gameplay with teamdamage ON.
Options which are not picked, could of course be used in future CTF tourneys.
Also we have agreed on not running "Loser Brackets" next to it, because it keeps the tourney from going.
So out means out, no 2nd chance! More luck in the next tourney ! |
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WeaponX God like!
Joined: 21 Apr 2006 Location: Great Britain
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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(so no 05, 06, 17 and 26). But they are the BEST ZDUCTF maps! |
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Mephisto On a Rampage!
Joined: 16 Nov 2004 Location: Estonia
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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IMHO map28 from zductf should be replaced with 23 as it's a far better map, but that's my opinion. I do think that a ZDUCTF tourney is the best choice, and 10 and 18 are good maps that haven't been played on at all (14 is quite popular in private games). |
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WeaponX God like!
Joined: 21 Apr 2006 Location: Great Britain
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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I just voted for ZDUCTF without looking at the other players responses and i must say, i am impressed with the amount of votes! |
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Mephisto On a Rampage!
Joined: 16 Nov 2004 Location: Estonia
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm, looks like 18 is the more worrisome map. I just found a massive imbalance aspect that makes playing on red way better.
See the blue step on the ground. By jumping on it, you can jump to the blue ledge on the left. Due to the way the map is made, this allows you to skip half of the map and get away with the flag easily.
On the red side, the step is not raised. You still have to take the long way around and getting away with the flag is way more difficult.
Unless this map is edited, I don't think it can be used. |
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WeaponX God like!
Joined: 21 Apr 2006 Location: Great Britain
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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Just tested this, and ouch. That will make a massive difference in the game, that step needs to be lowered, this makes this map very unfair for Blue indeed! |
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spacepirate AssPants
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Location: que pasa
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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What? No CrazyCTF?
Damn.... |
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Draza_Jr. Unstoppable!
Joined: 30 Sep 2005 Location: Czech Republic
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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Ok I just checked out map 18 and it is quite faster for reds to run with the flag..
Though there are many similar mistakes in zdctfmp1,2,3 and no one ever complained, I´d rather change this map to avoid future conflicts, that may occure after playing this map..
Anyway map23 was also on our maplist that we made with Bones and Rag so I guess there´s no problem in changing this one..from now on, map23 will be played instead of map18 (if zdu wins the poll ) |
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spacepirate AssPants
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Location: que pasa
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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Ragnarok wrote: | The reason we dont let you choose from 3 diferent wads other than zdctfmp, is that tourneys with other wads tend to have trouble getting finished (or even started) since a lot of people are unfamiliar with those maps.
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Wasn't ZDUCTF also unfamiliair when it was first used in a tourney?
Even when it is true, those people will not choose the different wads (because according to you they are unfamiliar) so zdctfmp will get chosen. So I think at least give the other wads a poll option! Because when it gets chosen that means it IS familiar to players.......... |
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Tuomio Wicked Sick!
Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Location: Finland
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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so, registration is open? |
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Draza_Jr. Unstoppable!
Joined: 30 Sep 2005 Location: Czech Republic
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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Tuomio wrote: | so, registration is open? |
Registration for the #5 3 vs 3 CTF Tourney
yes |
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Sniper God like!
Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Location: United Kingdom Clan: [BK]
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Where can we state our teams etc??? |
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Dopefish Dominating!
Joined: 18 Aug 2006 Location: From the shadows I come!
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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[UBR]Sniper wrote: | Where can we state our teams etc??? |
god, here ofc
Registration form:
Team Name:
Captain:
Roster:
PPT: (preferred playing time)
Contact: (Captain's contact details)
Just try to read |
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Cybershark Spamming!
Joined: 05 Jan 2005 Location: off the grid, but still fighting for the users!
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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spacepirate wrote: | Ragnarok wrote: | The reason we dont let you choose from 3 diferent wads other than zdctfmp, is that tourneys with other wads tend to have trouble getting finished (or even started) since a lot of people are unfamiliar with those maps.
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Wasn't ZDUCTF also unfamiliair when it was first used in a tourney?
Even when it is true, those people will not choose the different wads (because according to you they are unfamiliar) so zdctfmp will get chosen. So I think at least give the other wads a poll option! Because when it gets chosen that means it IS familiar to players.......... |
heh Space, well ZDUCTF is a step in the right direction. i'm surprised to see so many votes for it tbh as i'd given up on Euros looking outside their inbred little circle of maps.
it'd be nice if CTF tourneys could go the same way as the 1on1s and get people trying a bit more variety. yes it was all unfamiliar until people played it. think about it, even ZDCTFMP2 was new and shocking at one point
for a tourney then this format seems ideal to me. picking 4 solid maps from almost any CTF WAD is not hard, people would all start on a more even footing (ie it'd come down to individual skills and teamwork more than it would who'd spent the most hours grinding the maps down).
part of what people should be signing up for is the training and getting to know these maps. again, same as they should for the 1on1 tourneys.
the IDL has the usual shit covered. |
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Ragnarok Unstoppable!
Joined: 10 May 2005 Location: Sweden \m/ Clan: [dp]
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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Surely I understand your point Space. But the last tourney (TLXSCTF one), where a lot of different CTF wads were a poll option, the entire tourney didnt even get beyond the first round even though TLXSCTF got the most votes. People are just too "lazy" maybe to really get to know new wads and therefore those tourneys tend to fail. We want to prevent that from happening this time, so thats why we chose these wads for the pole.
However if ZDUCTF wins it, and the tourney will go fluently, expect more "less known" wads to be there in future polls. |
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Draza_Jr. Unstoppable!
Joined: 30 Sep 2005 Location: Czech Republic
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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Ragnarok wrote: | Surely I understand your point Space. But the last tourney (TLXSCTF one), where a lot of different CTF wads were a poll option, the entire tourney didnt even get beyond the first round even though TLXSCTF got the most votes. People are just too "lazy" maybe to really get to know new wads and therefore those tourneys tend to fail. We want to prevent that from happening this time, so thats why we chose these wads for the pole.
However if ZDUCTF wins it, and the tourney will go fluently, expect more "less known" wads to be there in future polls. |
Exactly..however the rest of the poll options are really great ideas and I guess we can create future tourney from these 2 options..still as Rag says, the tourney has to be fluent. Than it is no problem to start almost immediately after this upcoming tourney.. |
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Vampire Knight Wicked Sick!
Joined: 10 Apr 2004 Location: Castlevania
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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Well ZDUCTF was used in Euro CTF #3, so it's hardly something plucked from obscurity.
Im all for it though, my clan is well acquainted with the wad ; ) |
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WeaponX God like!
Joined: 21 Apr 2006 Location: Great Britain
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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Vampire get your bottom on IRC so we can discuss what teams we can enter for this tourney |
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Dopefish Dominating!
Joined: 18 Aug 2006 Location: From the shadows I come!
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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Me and Wilou (Suigintou), we voted for the zductf, but now we would like to change our decision to zdctfmp3. So the votes should be 12-12 now i think, if it is possible ofc:) |
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