ZDaemon

[Doomination]

can i use brown textures?

if so sign me up for B s'il vous plait

I know there needs to be a circumflex on the i in plait, live with it

[Eagle-Eye]

Aha! Thanks guys for trying to explain, I think Wilou hit it bang on and now I totally get it.... Hopefully.

So 30 days then?

[Doomkiller]

Ill go for the strict version please!

[spacepirate]

This is really tempting...

[BestOfTheWorst]

Basemaps have been posted now, check the first post for links!
..or alternatively for those people that can't go back in time, here's the links for A and B!

[pErf3ct _DaRk_]

Well I'm looking at basemap B under Doom Builder and... wow, that's challenging.

[EarthQuake]

Just FYI, because of the incomplete map structure, I doubt many editors other than Doombuilder will even be able to load these wads. I can work around that by importing the THINGS data into another wad, but still, it's a pain in the ass.

Edit: Oh this is gonna be good...

[pErf3ct _DaRk_]

Well I'm just thinking of the fact that... You ain't allowed to move things, but what if you use scrolling floors and teleports to move items around? :p
Boom allows it, so...

[EarthQuake]

You have to ruin everything, don't you?

[Doomkiller]

The b map look like someone has just placed random objects in a rectangle. The player starts have random orientation with no respect to weapon placement. This is going to be really hard.

[SuperNova]

Yeah, I mean, the way some of these things are placed, I can't see a great 1on1 map coming out of these. They are too inconsistent and although weapon balance is nice to have, sometimes it's too much balance using every weapon available. But, I suppose that is the challenge of this contest so perhaps someone will fuck up somewhere and accidentally produce a brilliant map!

[pErf3ct _DaRk_]

[ZERO99]

I use Doom 2 format because im not a bitch.

[EarthQuake]

[pErf3ct _DaRk_]

Well Worst and I had a chat about the warping, which is actually forbidden so let's jsut put this behind us, would we? ;P

[SuperNova]

Okay, quick question:

So for Base-A maps, it states you are not allowed to modify, move or change weapons as well as deathmatch starts (although we're given consent to change their directions). So what I'm gathering out of this is that we're allowed to add all things except weapons and deathmatch starts, correct?

[BestOfTheWorst]

Correct.

[Cybershark]

'Warping items' should not even have been an issue. The deal as stated was that you couldn't move items. Having them jump through teleports would most definitely be doing that.

But that doesn't mean the players can't hop all over the maps!

[SuperNova]

Okay one more question and this one probably applies to the more experienced mappers:

I use WadAuthor (yes I've been outdated for the 4 years) and I can build around the items, but when I go to save and open it, it comes up with an error and doesn't allow me to open it via zlauncher or editor anymore. When I went to open the .bak after converting it to .wad, everything i built on was erased. Needless to say, I was pissed. Anyway, EQ mentioned he couldn't do it in DeepSea either, so what way can I do it and still use WA or do I have to get with the times on this one and use DB? :\

[spacepirate]

write down the coordinations of the weapons and place them at the end

dont cheat eh!